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Wow, 2000! This is a relic! Yes, my intention was about the concept of Holy War, not necessarily the actual scheme being used. Thanks for the answer, only the elders of WA could know this! I think this information should be added to the articles. --[[User:FoxHound|FoxHound]] 22:51, 26 July 2014 (CEST) | Wow, 2000! This is a relic! Yes, my intention was about the concept of Holy War, not necessarily the actual scheme being used. Thanks for the answer, only the elders of WA could know this! I think this information should be added to the articles. --[[User:FoxHound|FoxHound]] 22:51, 26 July 2014 (CEST) | ||
: I would argue that the two Holy Wars, the old one that Deadcode refers to and the one that's described on the [[Holy War]] page, are different enough to count as separate schemes, even if the latter was derived from the former and shares its name. In fact I recall listing them separately on my [[User:KoreanRedDragon/Schemes|/Schemes page proposal]]. Certainly the two are much more closely related than Holy War and Burning Girders, so I'm not sure I would agree that it's necessary to list Burning Girders as a variation of Holy War here. It may very well have been inspired by the newer variant of Holy War, sure, but (especially unverified) that probably isn't quite enough to define it as a variant thereof. [[User:KoreanRedDragon|KoreanRedDragon]] 23:50, 26 July 2014 (CEST) | : I would argue that the two Holy Wars, the old one that Deadcode refers to and the one that's described on the [[Holy War]] page, are different enough to count as separate schemes, even if the latter was derived from the former and shares its name. In fact I recall listing them separately on my [[User:KoreanRedDragon/Schemes|/Schemes page proposal]]. Certainly the two are much more closely related than Holy War and Burning Girders, so I'm not sure I would agree that it's necessary to list Burning Girders as a variation of Holy War here. It may very well have been inspired by the newer variant of Holy War, sure, but (especially unverified) that probably isn't quite enough to define it as a variant thereof. [[User:KoreanRedDragon|KoreanRedDragon]] 23:50, 26 July 2014 (CEST) | ||
| + | I think you are right. There is no true evidence about BG being a variation (I removed that variation indication from schemes page). I don't think it is necessary to create a new page for the old scheme, though. Maybe just a section in HW page (like the BnA Run version) or a History subsection. --[[User:FoxHound|FoxHound]] 02:39, 28 July 2014 (CEST) | ||
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Something I would like to know is: Holy War or Burning Girders, which one came first? In the 2006 Worm Olympics both appears, so both are very old. However, what I believe is that Holy War is older than Burning Girders, because it seems to be a bit more popular. Holy War may have been Burning Girders' inspiration, so BG might be a HW variation. This is just a hypothesis, though. --FoxHound 20:46, 26 July 2014 (CEST)
- Do you mean Holy War with exactly the same scheme, or any scheme called Holy War in which the only weapon is the Holy Hand Grenade? Because if it's the latter, then Holy War dates back really far. I have a Holy War scheme dated 29 November 2000. —Deadcode 21:34, 26 July 2014 (CEST)
Wow, 2000! This is a relic! Yes, my intention was about the concept of Holy War, not necessarily the actual scheme being used. Thanks for the answer, only the elders of WA could know this! I think this information should be added to the articles. --FoxHound 22:51, 26 July 2014 (CEST)
- I would argue that the two Holy Wars, the old one that Deadcode refers to and the one that's described on the Holy War page, are different enough to count as separate schemes, even if the latter was derived from the former and shares its name. In fact I recall listing them separately on my /Schemes page proposal. Certainly the two are much more closely related than Holy War and Burning Girders, so I'm not sure I would agree that it's necessary to list Burning Girders as a variation of Holy War here. It may very well have been inspired by the newer variant of Holy War, sure, but (especially unverified) that probably isn't quite enough to define it as a variant thereof. KoreanRedDragon 23:50, 26 July 2014 (CEST)
I think you are right. There is no true evidence about BG being a variation (I removed that variation indication from schemes page). I don't think it is necessary to create a new page for the old scheme, though. Maybe just a section in HW page (like the BnA Run version) or a History subsection. --FoxHound 02:39, 28 July 2014 (CEST)
